Comments for Heroes of the East http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan Cult cinema from East Asia and oddities from around the world Thu, 28 Aug 2008 16:33:00 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=wordpress-mu-1.0 Comment on Cub Tiger from Kwang Tung (c.1971) by Cal http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23854 Thu, 28 Aug 2008 07:43:56 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23854 Chris: believe it or not, all of these screenshots are from the original film - and that IS Jackie Chan! From my shaky calculations, he would have been about 17 years old and approximately 6 years before his eye operation. Shawn:Yes I know, it's very problematical getting accurate information on JC - I STILL can't find reliable info on release dates for almost all of his Lo Wei films - they all tend to be dated at 1978 for some reason, but that can't be right. You're right, it's impossible to do a long review of this - it's BIG BOSS-lite and that's pretty much it. Glad I saw it though! Chris: believe it or not, all of these screenshots are from the original film - and that IS Jackie Chan! From my shaky calculations, he would have been about 17 years old and approximately 6 years before his eye operation.

Shawn:Yes I know, it’s very problematical getting accurate information on JC - I STILL can’t find reliable info on release dates for almost all of his Lo Wei films - they all tend to be dated at 1978 for some reason, but that can’t be right. You’re right, it’s impossible to do a long review of this - it’s BIG BOSS-lite and that’s pretty much it. Glad I saw it though!

]]> Comment on Cub Tiger from Kwang Tung (c.1971) by Chris http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23820 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:21:25 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23820 Are the screenshots from the newer material then? Because that really doesn't look like Jackie Chan (also wondering if this was made before or after he had the eye operation done). Are the screenshots from the newer material then? Because that really doesn’t look like Jackie Chan (also wondering if this was made before or after he had the eye operation done).

]]> Comment on Cub Tiger from Kwang Tung (c.1971) by Shawn "Masterofoneinchpunch" McKenna http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23819 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 21:17:15 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/27/cub-tiger-from-kwang-tung-c1971/#comment-23819 Ahhhhh. So this is the one you were going to review :D. It is hard to trust JC on quite a bit of what he states (he is not the only actor I've seen this with though). He tends to forget many facets of his career (sometimes it helps with their psyche). Finding "correct" information on JC is quite difficult. He is not always truthful (sometimes that is just the problems with memory) and many writers have written wrong information on him too -- sometimes with malice. It is always interesting to see JC flip and do more acrobatic work which you occasionally see afterwards until about 1978 where he does less and less and concentrates more on just fighting and stunts. This movie is not the easiest to write a long review on though :D. Self promotion: http://hkmdb.com/db/reviews/show_review.mhtml?id=13772 Ahhhhh. So this is the one you were going to review :D .

It is hard to trust JC on quite a bit of what he states (he is not the only actor I’ve seen this with though). He tends to forget many facets of his career (sometimes it helps with their psyche). Finding “correct” information on JC is quite difficult. He is not always truthful (sometimes that is just the problems with memory) and many writers have written wrong information on him too — sometimes with malice.

It is always interesting to see JC flip and do more acrobatic work which you occasionally see afterwards until about 1978 where he does less and less and concentrates more on just fighting and stunts.

This movie is not the easiest to write a long review on though :D .

Self promotion: http://hkmdb.com/db/reviews/show_review.mhtml?id=13772

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Cal http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23803 Wed, 27 Aug 2008 16:45:18 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23803 Well, on the whole I try to avoid reviews directly before I've written my own if I'm going to do a review, although I sometimes have a quick peek these days after I noticed I wrote a plot synopsis for a review on the HKMDB that was nearly identical to one already published. It seriously looked like I copied it. After writing my bit, I do have a read of what others think. Before I've watched a film I tend to read a few reviews as well, just to get the flavour of the film or whatever. It helps to brace myself sometimes ;) . Well, on the whole I try to avoid reviews directly before I’ve written my own if I’m going to do a review, although I sometimes have a quick peek these days after I noticed I wrote a plot synopsis for a review on the HKMDB that was nearly identical to one already published. It seriously looked like I copied it. After writing my bit, I do have a read of what others think.

Before I’ve watched a film I tend to read a few reviews as well, just to get the flavour of the film or whatever. It helps to brace myself sometimes ;) .

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Shawn "Masterofoneinchpunch" McKenna http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23706 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 22:13:40 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23706 Quick question on reviews in general: do you like to read reviews after or before you create your own particular essay (not counting reading reviews to movies you never want to review)? Quick question on reviews in general: do you like to read reviews after or before you create your own particular essay (not counting reading reviews to movies you never want to review)?

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Cal http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23694 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 20:40:36 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23694 Well, looks like I have to see KILLER METEORS again, now, too! I don't remember finding any of it funny at the time (I nodded off a bit though) but I do tend to see the (unintentional) humour in films now. I didn't like it mainly because Jackie was a bad guy (I thought he made a pretty bad villain) but I think I can get past that now. There'll be a lot of Jackie's Lo Wei films coming up soon - it's been so long since I've seen them (and sometimes only once) that I felt the time was right to see them again. I haven't read your reviews yet Shawn, but I DID read your review for my next film on here and it was in a completely different place than the HKMDB! I did a Google search on a certain phrase and it took me straight to a review you wrote (for the HKMDB, I assume) in a post on a completely different Forum. To be honest, some of the review reads almost identical to yours, but I didn't copy - I swear! It should be on tomorrow so you'll see what I mean. Getting back to THE TUXEDO Jackie's English didn't bug me, I just found it hard to understand him sometimes, and that's not happened before. Well, looks like I have to see KILLER METEORS again, now, too! I don’t remember finding any of it funny at the time (I nodded off a bit though) but I do tend to see the (unintentional) humour in films now. I didn’t like it mainly because Jackie was a bad guy (I thought he made a pretty bad villain) but I think I can get past that now. There’ll be a lot of Jackie’s Lo Wei films coming up soon - it’s been so long since I’ve seen them (and sometimes only once) that I felt the time was right to see them again.

I haven’t read your reviews yet Shawn, but I DID read your review for my next film on here and it was in a completely different place than the HKMDB! I did a Google search on a certain phrase and it took me straight to a review you wrote (for the HKMDB, I assume) in a post on a completely different Forum. To be honest, some of the review reads almost identical to yours, but I didn’t copy - I swear! It should be on tomorrow so you’ll see what I mean.

Getting back to THE TUXEDO Jackie’s English didn’t bug me, I just found it hard to understand him sometimes, and that’s not happened before.

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Shawn "Masterofoneinchpunch" McKenna http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23684 Tue, 26 Aug 2008 18:21:17 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23684 "I hated NEW FIST OF FURY and THE KILLER METEORS" I do not hate these as much. There is some good in both. I gave NEW FIST OF FURY a 5 and THE KILLER METEORS a 6 on HKMDB neither are great scores though. Have you read my reviews there (or wait till you do a full review then we can compare :D). I was not a fan of THE TUXEDO, so I have tried to put much out of my mind. I would put most of the blame on Kevin Donovan, though the script could easily have been better and different actors would have helped also. I believe a good film could have been made with this material (ultimately I believe you can make a good movie about almost anything). JCs English didn't bug me, but I'll keep in mind if I rewatch. “I hated NEW FIST OF FURY and THE KILLER METEORS”

I do not hate these as much. There is some good in both. I gave NEW FIST OF FURY a 5 and THE KILLER METEORS a 6 on HKMDB neither are great scores though.

Have you read my reviews there (or wait till you do a full review then we can compare :D ).

I was not a fan of THE TUXEDO, so I have tried to put much out of my mind. I would put most of the blame on Kevin Donovan, though the script could easily have been better and different actors would have helped also. I believe a good film could have been made with this material (ultimately I believe you can make a good movie about almost anything). JCs English didn’t bug me, but I’ll keep in mind if I rewatch.

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by James Lee http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23558 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:13:30 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23558 New Fist of Fury is a major missed opportunity but the end fight was good. it certainly plays much better in its uncut Mandarin form as seen on the OOP Columbia DVD And Killer Meteors is funnier than most genuine comedies! New Fist of Fury is a major missed opportunity but the end fight was good. it certainly plays much better in its uncut Mandarin form as seen on the OOP Columbia DVD

And Killer Meteors is funnier than most genuine comedies!

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Cal http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23556 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 11:54:19 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23556 Ah, THE PROTECTOR - another travesty. I knew I'd forgotten something. I really must get around to watching the HK version again though. It's not nearly as bad if I remember correctly. Ah, THE PROTECTOR - another travesty. I knew I’d forgotten something. I really must get around to watching the HK version again though. It’s not nearly as bad if I remember correctly.

]]> Comment on The Tuxedo (2002) by Michael Kendall http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23555 Sun, 24 Aug 2008 10:52:38 +0000 http://filmjournal.net/mjocallaghan/2008/08/23/the-tuxedo-2002/#comment-23555 I find this film entertaining personally. Rush Hour 3 on the other hand is absolutely appalling and by far the worst Chan film I've seen, making The Protector look like a masterpiece. I find this film entertaining personally. Rush Hour 3 on the other hand is absolutely appalling and by far the worst Chan film I’ve seen, making The Protector look like a masterpiece.

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